Being the CEO of Meta these days is challenging. The moment Mark Zuckerberg wakes up most mornings, he is reminded of it.
“It’s almost like every day you wake up and you’re punched in the stomach,” he told Joe Rogan on his hugely popular (and sometimes controversial) Spotify podcast, The Joe Rogan Experience.
According to Zuckerberg, the stress level has increased in some aspects as his company has expanded from a startup launched in 2004 to a $454 billion digital behemoth.
“You wake up in the morning, look at my phone, get like a million messages,” he said. “It’s usually not good. People reserve the good stuff to tell me in person.”
Zuckerberg explained that after taking in all the information, he resets by engaging in physical activity for an hour or two. Jogging, he claimed, is not included in that because it is difficult for him to refrain from thinking when running. Instead, he strives to engage in any physical activity that necessitates complete focus; his objective is to get so fully engaged—both physically and intellectually—to the point where he is unable to pay attention to anything else.
He revealed to Rogan that he enjoys jujitsu the most since it has a “primal” feel to it.
“That’s really important for me, in terms of what I do, to maintain my energy level and maintain my focus,” Zuckerberg said. “After an hour or two of working out … I’m ready to go solve whatever problem at work for the day, and I’ve fully processed all the different news for the day that’s come in.”
Rogan claimed that he had envisioned Zuckerberg’s life to be peculiar, what with his overseeing billions of users on social media platforms. The pressure must be hanging over him in the background, Rogan continued. There’s always work to be done, Zuckerberg said after pausing briefly.
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In a time when there is so much digital access to information and being drawn into social media, the two started talking about balance. Zuckerberg claimed that despite leading two significant social media platforms, he understands that. He added that he experiences personal stress because of one of his biggest competitors.
“I find that it’s hard to spend a lot of time on Twitter without getting too upset,” he said.
Compared to Instagram, which Zuckerberg claimed can be a good experience due to the good vibes people might take in. That, he claimed, had to do with the fact that language is typically more “cutting” and “critical” than graphics.